In 1920, he lived in Pierce County with Mary and sons. He was 47 and worked as a farmer. They rented. Mary was 45 and was born in Kentucky to parents from Kentucky. George W was 20 and worked as a farm laborer. Herschel was 15. Son-in-law Verdah Jones, 25, a widower, lives with them.

In 1930, they lived in McKenna in Pierce County. They rented and had a radio. Oscar was 59 and Mary was 53. They married at 29 and 22. Oscar works as a blacksmith at a sawmill. George was 29 and a laborer. Herschel was 25 and was a trail builder in the forest service.